Yesterday, we joined the kids at Reverse Shot in worrying that Alexander Payne and David Dobkin's collaboration, tentatively titled I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry, would, in typical mass-market comedy fashion, stupidize the issue of gay marriage at a crucial point in its political evolution. But in a roundtable with three other filmmakers occasioned by the gay-themed Outfest, Happy Endings director Don Roos points out that when gayness is given the lowest common denominator onscreen treatment, it's actually a sign of some kind of progress. "In a way," he says, "Gay cinema has grown up. Our movies have become just as tedious as theirs." But that in itself isn't exactly a good thing: "In Hollywood, the news [for gays] is terrible. I don't want to say the real world, but in the world of films that Hollywood produces, it's just as lousy as ever." Queer as Folk's Peter Paige agrees: "[Gays] do three things on screen: We suffer, we delight, we decorate." It's a really interesting conversation - Herbie: Fully Loaded director Angela Robinson and actor/director Craig Chester also take part - but it helps to confirm my suspicions that Gay America is just not ready to be given the straight-dude comedy treatment.