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Debating Principles in Social Gatherings
Nick Smith
You're opposed to these parties on principle.
Tom Townsend
Yes.
Nick Smith
Exactly what principle is that?
Tom Townsend
Well...
Nick Smith
The principle that one shouldn't be out at night eating hors d'oeuvres when one could be home worrying about the less fortunate.
Tom Townsend
Pretty much, yes.
Nick Smith
Has it ever occurred to you that you are the less fortunate?
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Aspirations of Failure and Wealth
Nick Smith
But, unlike you, I've always assumed I'd be a failure anyway. That's why I plan to marry an extremely rich woman.
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Questioning Trust and Credibility Among Friends
Jane Clark
Why should we believe you over Rick? We know you're a hypocrite. We know your "Polly Perkins" story was a fabrication...
Nick Smith
A composite.
Jane Clark
Whatever. And that you're completely impossible and out of control, with some sort of drug problem and a fixation on what you consider Rick Von Sloneker's wickedness. You're a snob, a sexist, totally obnoxious and tiresome, and lately you've gotten just weird. Why should we believe anything you say?
Nick Smith
I am not tiresome.
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Miscommunication in Unspoken Words
Tom Townsend
I haven't been giving you the silent treatment. I just haven't been talking to you.
[to Serena Slocum]
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Understanding Vulnerability in Social Dynamics
Nick Smith
I'm not sure if you realize this, but these girls are at a very vulnerable point in their lives. All of this is much more emotional and difficult for them than it is for us. They're on display. They have to call the guys up and invite them as escorts. And preppy girls mature socially much later than others do.
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Acceptance of Parental Limitations
Nick Smith
The most important thing to realize about parents is that there is absolutely nothing you can do about them.
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Concerns of Downward Social Mobility
Charlie Black
I think that - that - that we are all, in a sense, doomed.
Nick Smith
What are you talking about?
Charlie Black
Downward social mobility. We hear a lot about the great social mobility in America with the focus usually on the comparative ease of moving upwards. What's less discussed is how easy it is to - to go down. I think that's the - the direction that we're all heading in. And I think that the downward fall is gonna be very fast. Not just for us as individuals, but the whole preppy class.
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A Film on Downward Mobility
Taglines
Finally... A film about the downwardly mobile.
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The Value of Tradition Over Convenience
Nick Smith
You haven't seen this? Detachable collar. Not many people wear them anymore. They look much better. So many things which were better in the past have been abandoned for supposed convenience.
Tom Townsend
I had no idea anyone wore those anymore.
Nick Smith
It's a small thing, but symbolically important. Our parents generation was never interested in keeping up standards. They wanted to be happy, but, of course, the last way to be happy is to make it your objective in life.
Tom Townsend
I wonder if our generation's any better than our parents'.
Nick Smith
Oh, it's far worse. Our generation's probably the worst since - the Protestant Reformation. It's barbaric, but a barbarism even worse than the old-fashioned, straightforward kind. Now barbarism is cloaked with all sorts of self-righteousness and moral superiority. Will you look at this?
Tom Townsend
You're obviously talking about a lot more than just detachable collars.
Nick Smith
Yeah, I am.
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Debate on Authenticity and Friendship
Charlie Black
I don't see how you can stand him. You're always complaining about people being frauds and phoneys. This guy is the phoney of the decade, yet you act as he were your long-lost best friend.
Nick Smith
Tom's hardly a phoney. Just mildly deluded. He's a perfectly nice guy.
Charlie Black
That's just another aspect of his phoniness. He's a terrible phoney, and when he's not being a phoney, he's a bastard.
Nick Smith
Oh, come on.
Charlie Black
You saw how he treated Audrey last night.
Nick Smith
Well, Audrey seems to have forgotten it.
Charlie Black
She has to act that way. Otherwise it would be even more humiliating. But I don't have to pretend Tom Townsend is a nice guy.
Nick Smith
You're really gaga about Audrey, aren't you?
Charlie Black
If by "gaga" you mean, do I like her? Yes, I do.
Nick Smith
Well, why don't you do something about it, instead of just going on and on about what a bastard Tom Townsend is.
Charlie Black
What do I do? Declare myself? That would be an absolute disaster. I don't think I haven't thought about these things. But I think if the situation could just continue as it has been, they gradually, over time, it'd grow into something more. That, at least, is what I've been hoping for.
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The Challenge of Strip Poker Diminished
Nick Smith
Playing strip poker with an exhibitionist somehow takes the challenge away.
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Travel Aspirations and Financial Considerations
Tom Townsend
What can you study in France that you can't study here?
Audrey Rouget
French. Actually, I was thinking of coming back when this semester ends.
Tom Townsend
I was thinking of going over. Not necessarily to Grenoble, but to France and Italy... though my resources are limited.
Audrey Rouget
There are some awfully cheap airfares these days during the winter season. It seems a shame not to take advantage of them.
Tom Townsend
That's how I feel.
Audrey Rouget
Do you really think I'm flat-chested?
Tom Townsend
I haven't really thought about it. Well, I shouldn't say that. The thing is, you look great... and that's what's important. You don't want to overdo it.
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Misunderstandings and Accountability in Relationships
Charlie Black
Where do you get off, "you're surprised"? At what? You were Audrey's escort, yet you blithely left her stranded in the middle of the dance so you can try to work things out with Serena! And then you try to shirk the whole thing off on Fred.
Tom Townsend
I'm not trying to shirk it off on Fred. And I was not Audrey's escort. We were all there as a group. In any case, I'm very sorry there was a mixup.
Charlie Black
There was no mixup.
Tom Townsend
I'm sorry I left. But it wasn't intentional.
Charlie Black
When you're an egoist, none of the harm you do is intentional!
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Preference for Literary Criticism Over Fiction
Audrey Rouget
What ] novels have you read?
[[Jane Austen]
Tom Townsend
None. I don't read novels. I prefer good literary criticism. That way you get both the novelists ideas as well as the critics thinking. With fiction I can never forget that none of it really happened, that it's all just made up by the author.
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Critique of Aristocracy and Self-Perception
Nick Smith
The titled aristocracy are the scum of the earth.
Sally Fowler
You always say "titled" aristocrats. What about "untitled" aristocrats?
Nick Smith
Well, I could hardly despise them, could I? That would be self-hatred.
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The Nature of Belief and Loneliness
Charlie Black
Of course there is a God. We all basically know there is.
Cynthia McLean
I know no such thing.
Charlie Black
Of course you do. When you think to yourself, and most of our waking life is taken up thinking to ourselves, you must have that feeling that your thoughts aren't entirely wasted, that in some sense they are being heard. Rationally, they aren't. You're entirely alone. Even the people to whom we are closest can have no real idea of what is going on in our minds. We aren't devastated by loneliness because, at a hardly conscious level, we don't accept that we're entirely alone. I think this sensation of being silently listened to with total comprehension... something you never find in real life... represents our innate belief in a supreme being, some all-comprehending intelligence.
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Debate on Socialism and Its Historical Failures
Tom Townsend
I'm a committed socialist, not a Marxist. I favor the socialist model developed by the 19th-century French social critic ].
[[Charles Fourier|Fourier]
Charlie Black
You're a Fourierist?
Tom Townsend
Yes.
Charlie Black
] was tried in the late nineteenth century... and it failed. Wasn't Brook Farm Fourierist? It failed.
[[w:Fourierism|Fourierism]
Tom Townsend
That's debatable.
Charlie Black
Whether Brook Farm failed?
Tom Townsend
That it ceased to exist, I'll grant you, but whether or not it failed cannot be definitively said.
Charlie Black
Well, for me, ceasing to exist is — is failure. I mean, that's pretty definitive.
Tom Townsend
Well, everyone ceases to exist. Doesn't mean everyone's a failure.
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The Complex Legacy of the Bourgeoisie
Charlie Black
The term bourgeois has almost always been - been one of contempt. Yet it is precisely the - the bourgeoisie which is responsible for - well, for nearly everything good that has happened in our civilization over the past four centuries. You know the French film, ]? When I first heard that title I thought, "Finally, someone's gonna tell the truth about the bourgeoisie." What a disappointment. It would be hard to imagine a less fair or accurate portrait.
[[w:The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie|The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie]
Sally Fowler
Well, of course. ]'s a ]. Despising the bourgeoisie is part of their credo.
[[w:Luis Buñuel|Buñuel; [Surrealism|surrealist]
Nick Smith
Where do they get off?
Charlie Black
But the truth is, the bourgeoisie does have a lot of charm.
Nick Smith
Of course it does. The surrealists were just a lot of social climbers.
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A Sudden Loss Affects Everyone Involved
Nick Smith
Jane's father's dead. Very suddenly, last year.
Tom Townsend
Must have been awful for her.
Nick Smith
Yes. It was tough on him too.
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Contrasting Traits of an Attractive Character
Nick Smith
Rick Von Slonecker is tall, rich, good-looking, stupid, dishonest, conceited, a bully, liar, drunk and thief, an egomaniac, and probably psychotic. In short, highly attractive to women.
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The Complexity of Social Labels and Language
Charlie Black
Well, I don't think "preppy" is a very useful term. I mean, it might be descriptive for someone who is still in school or college; but, it's ridiculous to refer to a man in his 70s, like Averell Harriman, as a "preppy". And none of the other terms people use - WASP, P.L.U., et cetera - are of much use either. And that's why I prefer the term "U.H.B.
Nick Smith
What?
Charlie Black
U.H.B. It's an acronym for Urban Haute Bourgeoisie.
Cynthia McLean
Is our language so impoverished that we have to use acronyms or French phrases to make ourselves understood?
Charlie Black
Yes.
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Reflections on Friendship and Career Discontent
Man at Bar
You go to a party, you meet a group of people, you like them and you think "These people are going to be my friends for the rest of my life". Then you never see them again. I wonder where they go. We simply fail without being doomed. I'm not destitute. I've got a good job that pays decently. It's just that it's all so mediocre, so unimpressive. The acid test is whether you take any pleasure in responding to the question "What do you do?". I can't bear it. You start out expecting something much more, and some of your contemporaries achieve it. You start reading about them in the papers or seeing them on TV. That's the danger of midtown Manhattan - running across far more successful contemporaries. I try to avoid them whenever I can. But when I can't, they're always friendly. But inevitably they ask what am I doing - or think it.
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Arrogance in Concern for the Less Fortunate
Nick Smith
It's a tiny bit arrogant of people to go around worrying about those less fortunate.
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Critique of Romantic Preferences and Perceptions
Nick Smith
It's incredible, the eagerness of girls like you to justify the worst bastards imaginable... as being sensitive and shy. But if any guy who really was shy dared talk to you... you wouldn't give him the time of day - your eyes would glaze over.
Cynthia McLean
You're really hung up on Rick, aren't you? He must really threaten you somehow.
Nick Smith
You're right. I do feel threatened - that I may get a venereal disease from one of the St. Tim's girls he's been with.
Nick Smith
Did you learn that from your lovemaking with Rick? I hear it can get really rough.
Nick Smith
Don't do that again. For me, it isn't erotic.
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