A Hero's Journey Explored in Thunderbolts
The Void:
Robert the hero...
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Finding Strength in Togetherness
Yelena:
You came for us. What did you see? Are you okay?
Bucky: [sarcastically]
Oh I'm fine. I've got a great past, so I'm totally fine.
Walker:
Yeah this place is messed up.
Alexei:
We're here together. That's what matters.
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Finding Strength in Connection and Vulnerability
Yelena: [putting her hand on Bob's arm]
What I said to you before was wrong, Bob. You can't stuff it down. You can't hold it in all alone. No one can. We have to let it out. We have to spend time together. And even if it doens't make the emptiness go away, I promise it will feel lighter.
Bob:
How do you know?
Yelena:
Because it already has for me. We can find a way out of here together. Will you try and leave here with me?
Bob: [nodding slowly]
...Okay.
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New York's Maze of Shame Rooms
Bob:
Hi. What's up?
Yelena:
Uh...not much. You know, just watching New York disappear into a big maze of interconnected shame rooms. You ever seen anything crazy like that before?
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A Complicated Reunion Amidst Loss and Regret
Yelena:
I lost my sister again, but forever! And you disappeared!
Alexei: [speaks Russian]
I'm sorry. I don't know how to do this. I'm not good at it. I didn't think you wanted me.
Yelena:
I did!
Alexei:
I see that. I'm late, but I'm... I'm here now.
Yelena:
Daddy, I’m so alone. I don’t have anything anymore. All I do is sit, and look at my phone, and think of all the terrible things that I’ve done; and then I go to work, and then I drink, come home to no-one, and I sit and think about all the terrible things I’ve done again and again and I go crazy!
Alexei:
Yelena stop. Stop, we all have things that we regret.
Yelena:
No, but I have so many! My first test at the Red Room... Anya, she was just a child, she was so small...
Alexei:
So were you. I know; I know they were dark times -- very, very dark times, but... before, you were such a special little girl. Did you know this? You walked into room, you made it bright. You felt a lot of joy.
Yelena:
I don't remember that feeling.
Alexei:
You were so kind! You remember why you want to be goalie on your terrible soccer team?
Yelena:
It... So I didn't have to run as much.
Alexei:
No. Maybe that too, but you told me "I want to be the one everyone can rely on if they make a mistake". That Yelena is still in you. I still see her.
Yelena:
I don't...
Alexei:
You're stuck, you're alone, you look only at the bed. When I look at you, I don't see your mistakes. That's why we need each other.
Yelena:
...'kay, that was really good.
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Conflict Among Team Members
Yelena:
Oh my God! Stop! There is no "us." There is no "we." Bob changed into that thing, and there's nothing any of you can do about it.
Ava:
And what did you do exactly? Because I seem to remember you getting your ass beat way worse than mine.
Yelena:
Yeah! Yeah! I suck! I'm terrible! We're all terrible! Ava, you're not a hero! You're not even a good person!
Ava:
...Bitch.
Yelena:
See?
Alexei:
Slowdown, Um-nichka-
Yelena:
Alexei I am not your um-nichka! I haven't heard from you or seen you in a year!
Walker:
Okay, go easy on him-
Yelena:
Oh, so you're nice now!?
Walker:
Is it my turn?
Yelena:
No, you know you're a piece of trash Walker. So does your family.
Walker:
Jesus.
Yelena:
We're all losers. And we lost.
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Common Ground in Unlikely Partnerships
Alexei:
We are same, you and me!
Bucky:
Well...
Alexei:
I mean, we are different but we are same. You know, we could be co-leaders in this, huh?
Bucky:
Little different.
Alexei:
You get tired, I drive, huh?
Bucky:
I don't get tired.
Alexei:
No, I mean metaphorically. No, I don't actually want to drive.
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Assembling a Team of Scrappy Antiheroes
Alexei:
What impressive friends you've assembled, Yelena.
Yelena:
We're not friends, Alexei.
Ava:
No, we're just disposable delinquents.
Alexei:
Whatever you are, the light inside you is brighter. How about this — you are team of scrappy antiheroes?
Walker:
Yeah. Go Thunderbolts.
Alexei:
What? Yelena, you named them after your pee-wee soccer club?
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Military Experience Highlighted in Conversation
Walker:
Those birds are way too high. They're doing recon loops at 4,000 feet. I mean, they don't know what they're doing. They'll be five or ten clicks away in no time.
Ava:
Alright Walker we get it, you were in the military.
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Reflections on Life and Mortality
Ava:
So, that woman back there that I... You knew her?
Yelena:
Yeah I did. She had a tough life. She killed a lot of people and then she got killed. Same as us some day.
Ava:
It's a shit life.
Walker:
Yeah, well...what other life can we have?
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Childhood Stories and Leadership Qualms
Yelena:
Why should you be in charge? You almost killed all of us right there.
Walker:
Well let's see. I've been in the trenches of every war-torn country on this planet, rescued God knows how many hostages, and shook the hands of two U.S. Presidents. What else? Oh, High School state football champs back-to-back-to-back. Go Bears.
Yelena: [sarcastically]
Wow. When I was five I was on a peewee soccer team called the West Chesapeake Valley Thunderbolts, sponsored by Shane's Tire Shop. We won zero games and one time, this girl Mindy, she did a poo at midfield! Anyone else have any pointless childhood stories to tell?
Ava:
Grew up in a lab prison.
Bob:
Meth addicted sign-twirling chicken. It was a summer job.
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Awkward Conversations Among Unlikely Allies
Yelena:
Eww! Which one of you is wet?
Bob:
I run hot. Sorry.
Walker:
Someone's got a weird, hard butt.
Ava:
It's not my butt. It's my suit.
Yelena:
Well you need to get a new suit.
Ava:
Pardon me for the inconvenience. I mean, I only spent my entire life in labs hooked up to machines so I could create this physical cage to keep my material body from disintegrating at all times. So, yeah, I’m so sorry about that.
Yelena:
You do not want to start the whole sob story game. I win. Enslaved child assassin over here.
Walker:
Well, you were just a kid, so...
Yelena:
Oh? So that's a good thing now?
Walker:
I just think it might be nice to know that you didn't really know any better.
Yelena: [sarcastically]
Thanks. I feel way better.
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Confronting Loneliness and Inner Darkness
Yelena:
I understand. We all feel like shit sometimes. And loneliness? I get that. I get it. And that darkness gets pretty inticing. And then it starts to feel a little bit like...
Bob:
A void.
Yelena:
...Yep. A void.
Bob:
What do you do about it?
Yelena:
...You shove it way down. You just...push it down.
Bob:
That's great. That's really good advice.
Yelena:
You're welcome.
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Civilian or Agent: A Dilemma Unfolds
Yelena: [referring to Bob]
I think he's just a civilian.
Walker:
If he's a civilian, he knows too much. If he's an agent, he sucks. Either way I say we throw him back into the fire.
Bob: [chuckling]
You said you were Captain America?
Walker:
...Why are you laughing?
Bob: [still chuckling]
Just, cause you're an asshole.
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Debate Over Uncertain Consequences and Rising Heat
Ava:
That doesn't sound like a shredder...It's an incinerator.
Yelena: [noticing the countdown on the wall]
Two minutes. Then Valentina's slate is wiped clean.
Walker:
You don't know that for sure. Could be anything. Could be for anything. Could be for when they come to pick me up.
Ava:
Do you feel that!? The temperature rising dramatically as if heat were involved???
Walker:
...Okay it's an incinerator.
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Confronting the Past: A Tense Exchange
Walker:
Okay, well look at the facts. The infamous Ghost, a S.H.I.E.L.D. reject on the run from 15 nations? The dead one over there, she destroyed half of Budapest.
Yelena:
Don't talk about her like that-
Walker: [referring to Yelena]
-And you. A former Red Room assassin. God only knows the blood on your hands.
Ava:
Pretty ludicrous coming from the dime store Captain America.
Walker:
I'll have you know I was actually the official Captain America, so...
Yelena: [scoffs]
Yeah, for like two seconds.
Ava:
Before you publicly murdered an innocent man on the streets. Do I have that right?
Walker:
Really? Define innocent. Hey look, I'm a decorated combat veteran. I have a loving wife and son. Let's be honest, you guys are just cheap mercenaries. So clearly I'm supposed to bring you in.
Yelena: [chuckling]
That was funny. Thank you, we needed that.
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A New Era of Heroes Emerges
Mel: [[The Avengers (2012 film)|the aliens came. And the Avengers.]
I was in high school when ]
Bucky:
High school, huh? I was, like, 90.
Mel:
Hah. It's kinda strange that it's all over now, right? I mean, the Avengers are gone? No one else is coming to save the day...
Bucky:
Maybe we could be the people that are coming...
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Perception of Good and Evil in Conflict
Valentina Allegra de Fontaine:
You're brought up to believe that there's a good guy, and a bad guy. But then eventually you come to realize that there's a bad guy, and a worse guy. And nothing else.
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Righteousness Requires Power to Be Effective
Valentina Allegra de Fontaine:
Righteousness without power is just an opinion.
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The Burden of Existence and Identity
Bob / Sentry / The Void:
The most shameful thing of all was thinking you could be anything more than nothing.
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The Duality of Strength and Vulnerability
Bob / Sentry / The Void:
I have these good days, you know? Where I feel...I feel invincible. But then there are a lot of bad days when I remember that nothing...nothing matters, you know?
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Inability to Save Themselves
Bob / Sentry / The Void:
You thought you were gonna be some great saviors? You can't even save yourselves.
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Questioning Divine Authority in Leadership
Bob / Sentry / The Void:
Why would a god take orders from anyone at all?
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Apologies from a life in confinement
Ava Starr / Ghost:
Pardon me for the inconvenience. I mean, I only spent my entire life in labs hooked up to machines so I could create this physical cage to keep my material body from disintegrating at all times. So, yeah, I’m so sorry about that.
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Red Guardian's Unusual Exclamation
Alexei Shostakov / Red Guardian:
EVIL PILLOW!!!
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Defending the Thunderbolts' Honor
Alexei Shostakov / Red Guardian:
Enough talking! No one messes with the West Chesapeake Valley THUNDERBOLTS!!!
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Dim Light by Eastern European Standards
Alexei Shostakov / Red Guardian:
The light inside you is dim, even by Eastern European standards.
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Claiming Ownership and Control
Yelena Belova: [to Valentina]
We own you now.
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Questioning Abilities in a Team Setting
Yelena Belova:
So...none of us fly? What, do we all just punch and shoot?
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Playful Banter Among Allies
Yelena Belova: [breaking up Bob and Walker]
Okay okay! We swung our tiny dicks, it was a lot of fun.
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Exploring Emptiness and Inner Conflict
Yelena Belova:
There is something wrong with me. An emptiness. I thought it started when my sister died, but now it feels like something bigger. Just a... void. Or maybe I'm just bored.
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